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ATP Science Episode 36 – The Brain
Welcome to the ATP Project, Episode 36 – The Brain.
In today’s episode Matt and I discuss the Brain in some detail:
• Effects of Recreational Drugs
• How Homocysteine effects the whole body, especially the Brain.
o Chest Pain after Exercising and night sweats 00:50:47
o Excess Mucous build up 00:54:28
o Miscarriage and Hormones 00:57:22
o Adrenal Maladaptation, Pain 01:01:56
Welcome to the ATP Project, you’re with your hosts Matt and Jeff.
Jeff: We’re going to be talking about the Brain.
Matt: Ooh, I like the Brain.
Jeff: It’s funny, I was just doing a little bit of Googling around, as you typically do, and I found out some interesting information about the Brain, Matt. So, do you want me to—I mean nobody ever gets to hear my opinion, they’re always hearing your opinion.
Matt: No, go for it, especially if you’ve Googled it.
Jeff: Well it’s got to be true.
Matt: It’s going to be awesome.
Jeff: Let me just go to one reference point. Actually, on Google, I found this place called Wikipedia. Here are some interesting facts, Matt, about the Brain: your Brian keeps developing until your late 40s.
Jeff: Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. New Brain connections are created every time you form a new memory.
Jeff: That’s awesome. Your Brain uses 20% of the total Oxygen and Blood in your body.
Jeff: There is a virus that attacks human DNA making people less intelligent, impairing Brain activity, learning and memory.
Matt: I’ll believe you.
Jeff: When awake the human Brain produces enough electricity to power a small light bulb.
Matt: Why do you stop and stare at me after everything you say? It’s really awkward, I feel obligated to say, “Oh, really?” “Yeah, right.”
Jeff: How droll. This is one that I found interesting; violent homes have the same effect on children’s Brains as combat does on soldiers.
Matt: Yeah, that’s heavy.
Jeff: I know. It’s been scientifically proven that even a small dose of power changes how a person’s Brain operates and diminishes empathy.
Jeff: That’s when they say, “The power’s gone to his head.”
Matt: Oh, yeah.
Jeff: Isn’t it funny how a lot of the little sayings that are out there even came about probably before scientific means was able to determine that.
Jeff: But, these sayings have a truth to them.
Matt: Exactly. And, right now I cannot think of one.
Jeff: You have Taste Receptors in the Stomach, Intestines, Pancreas, Lungs, Anus, Testicles—poor women, they’re missing out there—and, the Brain. “Send this back, Garcon, my testicles don’t like it.”
Matt: Yeah, “Give me a wine,” “Would you like to taste the wine, Sir? Let me tea bag it.”
Jeff: The pathologist who did Einstein’s autopsy stole his Brain and kept it in a jar for 20 years.
Matt: I would have done that, just to tell people.
Jeff: Yeah, me too, probably. And, 60% of your Brain is Fat. Mm. Actually, that’s interesting, Matt, we can talk about that.
Matt: It’s quite possible. I’ve also heard 60% of its Water, so we’ve got a big Brain.
Jeff: I’ve heard that too. Well, there’s a lot of Fat and there’s a lot of Water in your Brain.
Matt: Yeah. Of the Fat in your Brain I think 15 to 20% is EPA DHA, which is the Omega 3 Oil we talk about for Brain Function. What people must understand, as well, with Fats, and we’re going to talk a lot more about Fats in future episodes, but Saturated Fat is so damn important because, as you know, there is Unsaturated and Saturated. Unsaturated is liquid at room temperature and Saturated Fat is solid at room temperature.
Jeff: So, the only difference between Saturated Fat and Unsaturated Fat for a boiled egg is if it’s a soft yolk or a hard yolk?
Matt: Yeah, whether you’ve Saturated the Fat in the yolk. That’s why soft yolks, apparently, are better than a hard yolk, because you haven’t Saturated the Fat in the yolk. But, the point is, if you don’t have adequate Saturated Fat in your body you can’t create Structure, that’s why there is a big problem with a lot of Structurally related problems like Macular Degeneration of the Eyes, other Structural problems in the Brain like Dementia and all that sort of stuff where they do not have adequate Saturated Fat to maintain the Structure because they’re too busy avoiding Saturated Fat because, apparently, it’s bad for you.
Jeff: Well, it’s interesting, Matt, and I think we’ve mentioned it before in another podcast, with regards to Vitamin E; when the World Health Organisation or the Governing Bodies around the world decided, “Hey, let’s reduce the amount of Fat that we recommend that people should get in their diet,” so the RDI or the RDA, depending on where you are. They had a dilemma with what to do with Vitamin E because, obviously, it’s a Fat-Soluble Vitamin, and their genius idea was, “Well, you don’t need 15 IU anymore, we’re going to make it 7.5,” or whatever the number is, I forget exactly how much it is that they recommend.
Jeff: But, it’s crazy, and again, this is this whole thing around dieting as well, the myth around these Fat Free Foods that they’re going to help you to become leaner, but the ultimate problem with that is that normally the Sugar content is higher which then causes an Insulin response.
Jeff: So, Fat is critical, and I think a lot of people are starting to understand that now.
Matt: Yeah. And, we’ll do a podcast talking about Fat, and I want to do the Sugar one, I keep promising people. But, the Sugar, the Protein, the Fat, but I want to do a Macronutrient podcast that is very scientific so we can go back and use it as a point of reference. I don’t want to just do a conceptual thing, because we know, conceptually, we need to balance our Macros. So, the conceptual argument is fine, but I want to know constructive stuff that we can give to people so they know exactly what we’re talking about, and with references that they can refer back to.
Jeff: Well, it’s nice for people like myself who are probably not as smart as some people out there, obviously, yourself and other learned people, I should say, because I’m more of a lay person and this is just a general interest for me and I think a lot of people that listen to this are also.
Matt: Hopefully when we finish talking about this Brain episode you totally slap yourself across the face and realise that there is no such thing as dumb or smart, there are different types of activity in the Brain, there is academic, and there is the ability for memory recall, there’s ability for Function, there’s the ability of Function, there’s the ability for Music, there’s the ability for Problem Solving, there’s the ability to replicate and image, and all of those things are different Brain activities that are just as important as the others in a different situation. There’s that thing, “If you judge a person’s intelligence by—if you judge a monkey’s skill—oh shit, you know that thing I’m trying to say.
Jeff: Yeah, if you judge a fish’s ability to climb a tree, it would be a pretty stupid fish.
Matt: Yeah, that’s right, the idiot.
Jeff: Yeah. Well, that’s what I keep saying to Toni as well, the activities that I’m best at are in the bedroom and none of my friends can come and watch.
Matt: No, well that’s good. If you ask my wife—see, now I was going to say something about my wife and then you threw that in and now it’s going to sound weird because it’s got nothing to do with the bedroom. But, if you ask my wife, I’m the dumbest person she knows because I am totally retarded with doing things.
Jeff: Babies, finding the butter in the fridge?
Matt: That sort of stuff, of course, we talked about that.
Jeff: I heard that in the last episode.
Matt: But, just the silly things, like functioning in the world, they’re the things I can’t do.
Jeff: Yeah, that’s right.
Matt: Like, Rain Man.
Jeff: Yeah, like when we go overseas and you’re panicking?
Matt: I do panic, I’m not real good.
Jeff: The flight is at 7 o’clock in the morning and Matt’s at my place at a quarter past two.
Matt: Well, you never know what can happen with traffic.
Jeff: Ohh. Anyway, Dieting could force your Brian to eat itself, scientists say.
Jeff: Mm. So, there you go, there’s a reason not to Diet; that’s stupid.
Jeff: The human Brain has the same consistency as Tofu. The smell of chocolate increases the Beta Brainwaves which triggers Relaxation.
Matt: That’s cool.
Jeff: That is, but it makes you hungry at the same time.
Matt: Let’s talk about some cool stuff.
Jeff: Last one, the Brain releases so much Dopamine during orgasm that the Brain scan resembles that of someone on Heroine.
Jeff: So, who says, “Love is a drug”? Well, yeah it is.
Matt: There you go.
Jeff: Anyway, Matt, that’s enough of Jeff’s science, or Bro Science.
Matt: No, that’s Google work. That’s good though, I love those sort of interesting facts because they always link back to actual things, as you say.
Matt: What’s really cool, you know how you said new Synapses are made all the time from learning?
Matt: That’s an interesting thing that, because everything we’ve ever seen, heard, or done, is somewhere in our head, it’s there somewhere, the hard bit is accessing it, and this is where study, and the ability for memory recall, and all that sort of stuff, for learning. There’s this trick that I’ve always done through my study, and it’s a definite strategy and I know it works. It’s the same sort of concept of Speed Reading. All you do in Speed Reading is just glancing through picking up the big points, then going back and look at it again and you go back multiple times, but you’ve got to get the big picture and then go back and get more and more detail as you go. With learning, the best way for study that I ever found is when you learn something new, learn it on a day, go back and quickly refresh your Brian the next day, and what you’re doing is you’re building a Synapse and then when you’re refreshing your Brain the next day you’re actually bringing that filing cabinet, that useful information closer to the front so it’s easier to access next time.
Matt: Then, after seven days do it again. So, you learn it one day, refresh the next day, refresh again after about seven days, it just keeps bringing it forward, then the important one is 21 days. So, 21 days after learning it the first time you need to refresh again, and then again after three months, and then what you’ve done is you’ve created a system that has brought that information up to the top of your filing cabinet and makes it easy to access for future stuff. Then, if you go for a period of time not knowing that stuff it will gradually filter back down the filing cabinet like my high school maths and everything that I really struggle to know any of, but at the time I was brilliant at it, I used to study and work really hard, I used to do Maths 1, Maths 2, Physics, Chemistry, all that sort of stuff linked in together and I used to be really sharp because I did it really frequently, but now it’s kind of filtered it’s way back down, so things like mathematics and equations and formulas and that sort of stuff have disappeared from my Brain’s easy access, but when I refresh my memory they come back up.
Jeff: Mm. The way I always looked at it was that creating those pathways in the Brain is almost like a road, if that makes sense, it gives you access, and that’s what they say, it takes 21 days to form new habits, which is creating or blocking those roads, so then it becomes easier to recall or easier to do, and that also forms part of action as well too, going to the gym or eating…
Matt: There’s something freaky around that 21 days.
Jeff: It’s weird, isn’t it?
Matt: Well, there’s a lot of seven year and seven day cycles in the human body.
Jeff: The Cells are replaced, aren’t they?
Matt: And, with Healing we always do multiples of three, we always do weird multiples of three with Healing, when you’re massaging or when we’re doing frequency things, you get it right and then you do three more just to seal it.
Jeff: Yeah, it’s weird.
Matt: So, there’s seven lots of three hitting the 21 days, and we can really implant things into our brain; it’s 21 days to break a habit, 21 days to fix and addiction, 21 days to learn a process and have it sharp in your head. It’s funny, eh?
Jeff: It’s interesting, and forgetting things as well. Even with some of the reading that I was doing it was showing that it was good to forget some things like bad memories and other things like that.
Matt: Do you want to know what happens with that?
Matt: With the body we’ve got the Sympathetic Nervous System and the Parasympathetic.
Matt: The Parasympathetic Nervous System is involved in Rest and Digest, Relaxation and Recovery, and it’s your Parasympathetic Nervous System that does Meditation, Study, Prayer and all those sort of things, and it’s the one that imprints memory. So, the Parasympathetic Nervous System is predominantly driven by Acetylcholine, and Acetylcholine is very important to imprint memory. So, Acetylcholine plus Noradrenaline will imprint long term memory, and Acetylcholine plus Serotonin will put it in—actually, I can’t remember if it’s long or short there, but you get the different combinations. So, there’s one way of getting something into your Innate Defence Mechanisms by combining it with Noradrenaline, and then if you combine it with Serotonin it gets into the filing cabinet as an imprinted memory, not a Gut Instinct. So, it’s wild eh?
So, what happens is, the Sympathetic Nervous System which you deal with during Stress and during Trauma, it actually releases excessive amounts of Noradrenaline, and Noradrenaline does long term Memory, it does Gut Instincts and Intuition and it actually overrides the Acetylcholine, Serotonin and everything else. So, what can happen is you get bucket loads of Noradrenaline and you get bucket loads of Dopamine and what they do is they get you awake and alert and in Survival Mode. They also raise your Pain Threshold, they also block off short term memory, concentration span and focus which makes it harder to imprint a memory of the event, but what you remember is emotion. So, what happens is you get this emotional feel and that brings back a memory and you’re going, “Oh, I’ve got that feeling again,” and then you launch a Survival Response.
Jeff: It’s funny, because when I was doing a quick look around they were saying one of the interesting things about rejection is that it has the same feeling in the body as physical pain, which is why people avoid rejection almost at all costs. So yeah, it’s kind of linked.
Matt: Yeah, and because it does trigger the same parts of the body your body can’t afford to wait to see if it’s physical pain or rejection and that, so you get the same Survival mechanisms released, and that’s why some people with rejection can get just downright angry and they can take it really weird.
Jeff: Fight or flight?
Matt: Yeah, they get a flight or fight response as if they’ve been physically hurt, when mentally someone’s just said, “No, go away, you’re a wierdo.”
Jeff: You seem to know that quite well.
Matt: Yeah, it’s been said a couple of times.
Jeff: Well, Matt, let’s talk about some of the interesting things. In today’s episode, we want to talk about some of the big ones, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and that sort of stuff, we want to talk about the Serotonin, the Hormones.
Matt: I want to talk about acute stuff too, Man, Acute Brain Damage, I’m seeing so much of that now. We used to say, “Brain stuff is things that will happen over a long period of time.”
Jeff: Well, let’s look at Drugs; there’s a thing on YouTube, a guy in Australia with one and a half million views and climbing, I think, in a very short period of time, who took Ecstasy, and obviously as we know with that sort of stuff it could be boiled up in someone’s dirty garage and who knows what’s in it.
Matt: Well, you don’t know.
Jeff: Now, he’s got this Tremor happening and he can barely get a word out and he’s got Tremors the whole time and the doctors don’t know if it’s permanent Brain Damage or if he’s permanently damaged his Nerves.
Matt: This is the thing with the Brain; it’s oily, it’s gooey, oily, and as you said, it feels like Tofu, it’s made predominantly of oily structures, a lot of those are Unsaturated Fats so it’s a very flexible jelly like structure. So, you’ve got to understand that the Chronic Brian Disorders that we refer to, things like Dementia, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and those sorts of things, they come about from these oily structures that are the Receptors, so the Nerve Synapses are called Glycoproteins with their oily protein very flexible structures, but, they release chemicals and they’ve also got these antennas on the other end that catch the chemicals. Most of those Brain Disorders revolve around where the antennas, on the other side, are structurally damaged and they’re not picking up on the chemicals that are being released. So, what that basically means, if that chemical happens to be Dopamine and that part of the Dopamine Receptors in the Brain are damaged then that’s when you get Parkinson’s Disease, so the Dopamine isn’t activating any Receptor and Dopamine controls Fluidity of Movement and without it you get all rigid and stuck, and that’s what causes Parkinson’s.
Matt: With Alzheimer’s Disease, the Acetylcholine Receptors and everything that work on Memory, and Concentration Span have been damaged and the Acetylcholine isn’t registered and then you can’t actually imprint the Memory.
Jeff: Wow! So, Matt, obviously, the question is what can you do to safeguard against that sort of thing?
Matt: They always talked about it over the years, “What is the trigger that causes the Receptors to break down?” and they always said, “Maybe Aluminium, Lead, those sorts of heavy metals.” Things like Homocysteine, which is an acidic waste, that can actually Oxidise and damage the Oily structures, they’re all true.
Jeff: I remember you said too much Methionine can damage…
Matt: Yeah, too much Methionine. Man, everyone is supplementing Methionine, and it’s hard to find a Liver formula without Methionine in it, or Methionine, I don’t know how to say the bloody thing. But, basically, if you put in Methionine it backlogs the Homocysteine and causes your body to build up Homocysteine…
Jeff: And, Varicose Veins and Spider Veins and those sorts of things.
Matt: Homocysteine is an acidic waste that builds up in the Arteries and in the Brain and in the Kidneys, and it degrades oily structures because it’s an acidic waste. So, it basically breaks down the Receptors, it makes Veins lose their Elasticity, it makes Blood Clot, it damages the little Nephrons in the Kidneys, it’s horrible stuff. But, the funny thing is, and this is how stupid it is, there’s a massive problem with everyone building up Homocysteine in their body and it’s breaking everything down. This is the coolest part though; Homocysteine is a waste product, and when you add Folic Acid, and B12 to Homocysteine it Methylates it, or if you add a Methyl donor like Trimethyl glycine or something, or Dimethylglycine, so when you use the Methylation process you Methylate Homocysteine and it makes this stuff called SAMe, and that’s one of the ‘breast’ Antioxidants—breast? I did say breast.
Jeff: One of the breast Antioxidants. What about for guys? Okay, sorry, keep going.
Matt: Yeah, I’m distracted thinking of boobs. But no, SAMe is one of the best Antioxidants for your Brain and a brilliant Antidepressant; it also does Learning, Memory, Cognition, and all those sorts of things.
Jeff: Get stuffed!
Matt: And, protects the Receptors in the Brain from Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. So, we can convert the waste product in the Brain to a protective mechanism in the Brain, but if you’re loading up on Methionine it backlogs the whole thing and you build up Homocysteine and your stuff. Otherwise you load up on Folate and B12, and if you happen to have the MTHFR Gene Polymorphism or any of those weird things, you just get the Activated forms of Folate and B12, or eat a lot of foods that are full of Folate and B12 so you get all the other Cofactors in there that actually work.
Jeff: Just quickly, Matt, for people who don’t know what sorts of foods?
Matt: Usually green leafy sort of stuff, or products from animals that have eaten green leafy stuff, so like organ meats and that sort of stuff, Liver and all that.
Matt: It’s ‘offal’ alright, but I don’t know how to cook, most of the stuff I cook tastes ‘offal’.
Jeff: You can’t even find the butter in the fridge, Matt.
Matt: Yeah, well stupid people put it in the front. Anyway, what were we talking about, not butter in the bloody fridge?
Jeff: We were talking about Fats and that’s sort of stuff.
Matt: So, basically, when you look at the Chronic Disorders they’re all to do with wear and tear on the structures of the Brain, predominantly, that’s why long term of utilising high oil supplements, lots of Antioxidants, protecting the Brain Tissue from things like Homocysteine, which is easily measured. I think it’s $25 to do a Homocysteine test to see where you’re at.
Matt: Apart from Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Dementia, Kidney Disease, Cancer, Varicose Veins, Thrombosis, and all those other things, Homocysteine can also cause Miscarriages, Spina Bifida birth defects, which is why they tell us to take Folic Acid. But, it makes you wonder why they don’t measure it.
Jeff: For a $25 test you can tell all those things?
Matt: For a $25 you can tell your risk for all of those things, and not only that, have you seen the Ads on TV? One in 10 people won’t get results from using Folic Acid during pregnancy; well, that’s the way I hear it. What they say on TV is, “A 90% success rate for Folic Acid,” you know, but one in 10 people are using these products and having children with birth defects because they’re not measuring the Homocysteine and seeing if the Folic Acid works. If you’re a pregnant woman and you measure your Homocysteine you know what your risk is of having Spina Bifida children, and you also know if the Folic Acid you’re consuming is actually working. The other thing you’ve got is a marker at an early stage of your life of whether you’ve got a risk of Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, Dementia, Cancer, Cardiovascular Disease, Kidney Disease, later in life.
Jeff: My mum and dad were quite old when they had me, my mum is coming into her 80s now, and one of her biggest fears is getting Dementia, she’s as sharp as a tack, and maybe the Memory recall is not as great as it what it could be, and my dad was 87 when he passed away, perfectly fine, but my grandfather had Parkinson’s, and I know that people who’ve got a family history and are listening to this, Matt, are probably going, “Oh Matt, tell me what are some things that I can do right now to safeguard against it? What are some practical steps that I can take even when I’m young?”
Matt: This will be the same for Parkinson’s, Dementia, Alzheimer’s, a lot of the age-related Brain stuff: NRF2 Activators are some of the most powerful tools you can use to protect your Brain because what they do is they control all of the Gene Functions that protect your Brain Tissue from Inflammation, Oxidative Stress, and damage, and they activate the Genes that help Regeneration and Repair of these structures. So, you can just do a Google search for NRF2 Activators; they are things like Turmeric, Broccoli Sprouts, Ashwagandha, Gingko, a lot of these things are well known for their ability to maintain Brain Function and just general health and wellness, and they’re some of the more potent ones. We’ve got them in our products, the CORT RX and the ALPHA VENUS but they’re all in the foods as well, and I always tell people do the foods and the supplements.
Jeff: Yeah, makes sense.
Matt: Because, you can ditch the supplements then because you’ve got these food habits and you don’t even remember why, but they’re there.
Jeff: Well, if you take them hopefully you do remember why.
Matt: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Jeff: Matt, and what about things like oils?
Matt: So, NRF2 Activators, oils…
Jeff: What types of oils?
Matt: EPA, DHA, which come from Omega 3 sorts of oils.
Jeff: That’s found in Fish Oils?
Matt: But, we need Omega 3, we need Omega 5, we need Omega 6, we need Omega 7, we need Omega 9, we need all the Omega profiles, and we need a lot of Saturated Fat as well; we need nice Cholesterol, we need nice Saturated Fats to be able to build the structure. So, pretty much 30% of your Calories could come from Fat over a long period of time and that would maintain enough Fats that tells your body that you’re eating enough Fat and tells your body, “You don’t have to make Palmitic Acid when I’m asleep to actually compensate for the fact that I’m not eating enough Fat.”
Jeff: You know what, Matt?
Jeff: I like Nuts.
Matt: I bet you do.
Jeff: I find them a fantastic source of those sorts of…
Jeff: I do like salted Nuts, roasted first. But no, they are a good source. Brazil Nuts we’ve talked about before, for things like Selenium and what have you. Obviously, you’ve got Macadamia Nuts. Some other amazing factors about Nuts…
Matt: What about Walnuts, they look like the Brain so they’re probably the best for the Brain, and Pecans.
Jeff: That’s interesting. When we were talking about Nuts a while ago.
Matt: What are you…
Jeff: I don’t know. It was Cashew Nuts, and by the way, if you want to freak yourself out Google how they’re grown, because they form like a horn on the top of this plant, it’s really weird. But, they’ve got an acid in them which is brilliant for Teeth and for Oral Health, they actually kill Bacteria. So, they’re saying as little as four or five Cashew Nuts a day can significantly reduce Plaque and Tooth Decay. Anyway, I found it fascinating.
Matt: That is fascinating.
Jeff: And, Oral Health, again, has a massive impact on Heart Disease.
Matt: You have to understand that all aspects of aging are Inflammatory, so anything that’s causing an Inflammatory Trigger in the body is going to cause low grade, long term Inflammation that’s going to degrade, predominantly, oily structures, which is why most of these long-term Brain Disorders are either of an Inflammatory origin, or Oxidative Stress, or Autoimmune. Now, all of those things are in response to possible Dental Problems, Infections, Parasites, Trauma, Drugs, Chemicals, all that sort of stuff.
Jeff: Again, it’s a holistic thing.
Matt: The other thing that’s becoming more freaky, and we’re seeing this older population that we’ve got, baby boomers and everything, we’re seeing those guys coming in with all this Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Dementia utilising up all of our infrastructure and resources—no, I was just stirring.
Jeff: Oh, we’re getting some hate mail there.
Matt: I was just stirring you.
Jeff: My mum listens to this show, Matt, you’re in trouble.
Matt: I know, she’ll probably text me later anyway.
Jeff: Text you? We’ll get a letter in the mail.
Matt: But, my bigger concern is what’s going to happen in future generations? Because, the old buggers that are getting Alzheimer’s and Dementia didn’t have anywhere near as much Acute Brain Damage that people today are getting. So, what I mean is, the people of today are getting all sorts of weird stuff in their Brains that’s causing early damage to the Brain and significantly destroying Brain structure which is going to make them predisposed to long term Brain stuff much sooner.
Jeff: Are you talking about Drugs?
Matt: I’m talking about Drugs, talking about Stimulants, talking about Oxidative Stress, talking about other things that trigger Inflammation such as Immune Dysfunction and all those sorts of things. The amount of low grade Inflammation that people are just wandering around with now because of Toxic Exposure, Immune Activation, Stress, and everything that we’re all under, is constantly causing damage to the Brain faster than what our predecessors were exposed to. But, like you said, Drug use and that is insane at the moment.
Remember when we went to America just recently, talking to the guys in America about it, when you talk to them about Australia, they’re all going, “You guys are insane,” that our Drug use here is just out of control. I look at those guys, I watch TV and go, “Man, America is a crazy place,” but the Americans look at us and go, “No Man, population wise you guys are the worst.”
Jeff: I actually heard someone say something quite relevant the other day, I can’t remember who it was, but they said one of the biggest mistakes that we’ve made in Australia—because, we used to grow up watching the movies with all the Crack whores and guys, and they called it Crack Cocaine, but over here they called it Ice which kind of sounded cool
Matt: The media, yeah.
Jeff: If they’d have kept called it Crack I just wonder if it would have been so successful.
Matt: Crack whores. But, an Ice whore sounds like someone cool now.
Jeff: No, not at all. But, it’s true though, I mean I just wonder…
Matt: I dated her actually, Ice Whore.
Jeff: I’ll kick you in the Ice hole in a minute, Matt. Now, the thing is that’s part of the problem as well, that people are using too many Drugs because they don’t think about the negative connotations with it, “Oh, it’s fine. Ecstasy, not a problem, it’s a fun Drug, go out, have some tablets.” Have a look at that poor guy on social media and I’m sure…
Matt: What you’ve got to realise—so, Drugs are bad, we know that.
Jeff: Just say no.
Matt: Yeah. The other thing to be aware of is, if someone’s trying to say, “It’s not a Drug, it’s like a bath salt or a herbal extract or a fake alternative to Pot ”or something, please understand there are research chemicals that are used in laboratory settings to freak out rats or something, and to create crazy chemical triggers. They haven’t had any Safety studies done, they haven’t had any Toxicity studies, no one’s worked out what dose is actually suitable even for the bloody rats. Then, what’s happening is, people are getting these research chemicals and calling them bath salts or spraying them over a herb and selling them as an alternative to a recreational Drug that you’d buy from a drug dealer. The people who sell these things are worse than a drug dealer, they’re worse because they don’t even use them themselves. The drug dealers are trying stuff, they know when these things are killing people, but, “The drug dealers are bad,” and they’re doing all this stuff. The pharmaceutical companies, all these dealers and all these bath salt people that are selling that stuff are all, basically, saying, “Pharmaceutical companies are evil, we deserve the right to be able to do whatever we want.” Understand that a pharmaceutical company will do 10 years of research on a chemical to understand the side effects, understand the lethal—they’ll still put the bloody thing on the market…
Jeff: They’ll tell you how they’re going to kill you.
Matt: That’s right, but they will understand the poison and they will give you experts who are supposed to also understand how to utilise that poison for a particular purpose. But, what you’ve got to understand is these people who are pumping out research chemicals–herbal stores and sex shops that are selling this stuff are sitting there going, “The pharmaceutical companies are restricting all this stuff.” And, here’s TGA telling us we can’t do this, and the government is telling us we can’t do that, so you’ve got to understand that these research chemicals there’s no understanding of what they do. They’re not labelling them, you don’t know what’s in these things, and the problem with that is that stuff is so cheap and it’s hard to identify for the authorities, so that’s what people are now putting into things like Ecstasy pills as well. So, they’re not using the classic MDMAs, they’re not using combinations of known Drugs that have a long history and a track record, they’re using research chemicals, spiking them up, doing whatever they can to make these cheap pills. But, you don’t know what’s in them, no one does; they don’t know, they don’t know what they’re buying, they’re buying a powder from some illegal person and putting it into a product.
Jeff: Well Matt, just tell us about that friend of yours whose son took some up in Mackay.
Matt: Oh, Mate, there’s been quite a few people in Mackay actually die, and suicide sort of stuff, and it’s all linked in with these sorts of things as well. But, I’ve had a couple of mates—I’ve got one mate who thinks he’s in the FBI now saving the world, but I won’t talk about him too much. But, there’s also other people I know where I’ve seen videos of these people who have gone and smoked an alternative to Pot and just turned into vegetables; it takes ages to clear the stuff out of the Brain, if it ever does. But, what can happen is it can trigger Inflammatory and Autoimmune Reactions. So, what can happen with these Drugs, and this is what happens with things like Ice, and it also makes them so addictive and so problematic, is that you get such a crazy release of chemicals at the same time that the Receptors that are catching the chemicals pretty much get fried, they get so bombarded with chemicals, such an exaggerated release, and the body can’t stop that release, all it can do is stop the response to it. So, at that point, those Receptors down regulate; permanently in some situations.
What that means is, when you do that same release of chemical it doesn’t react the same, you never feel that same feeling you felt the first time, with the same dose, so then you need more, which means then the Receptors go down more. And, then what happens, you can imagine if your Receptors that are picking up on Brain chemistry, like Noradrenaline that makes you Worry, Anxious, Serotonin that makes you feel content and relaxed, Dopamine that does Pride and Reward and those sorts of thing, Acetylcholine that does Memory, Concentration Span, Relaxation, Meditation. If those things aren’t registering on the Receptors, then you have to do extreme things or have exposure to extreme things to release extreme amounts of chemicals in the Brain just to register. And, that also explain why these people then go and do horrible extreme things and not even register the guilt and the fear and the emotions, empathy, that sort of stuff that should come with that, because they’ve had such a release of chemicals. Normal chemicals of Shame, Regret, Fear, they’re not even touching the sides.
Matt: That’s why they have to do such crazy horrible extreme things just to feel anything. Now, the good news is, in the past they didn’t think we could rebuild Brain structure, but it looks like we can. There is a lot of new research coming in saying that you can actually start to rebuild Brain structure in these people that have got Brains like Swiss Cheese.
Jeff: Right, Matt. So, for people who are listening to this podcast who have loved ones who have had Brain Damage either through Injury or through Drugs, or maybe they’re getting older, maybe they’re afraid of Parkinson’s, or maybe they’re starting to show a bit of Dementia, what can they do?
Matt: You can load up on your Oils, a big variety of Oils, which a lot of them are available in the Diet, and we usually struggle with the Omega 3s, which is why most people supplement, predominantly, with Omega 3s.
Jeff: Because, we get a lot of 6, don’t we, or 9?
Matt: We get a lot of 6. Basically, once a plant has seeded the seeds are high in Omega 6, but the plant itself is high in Omega 3. For example, Safflower; if you get Safflower Oil, if it’s from the seed it’s full of Omega 6, if it’s from the flower it’s full of Omega 3, that’s where CLA comes from, the flower not the seed. A lot of people sell Safflower Seed Oil and pretend it’s CLA, the sneaky buggers.
Jeff: Yeah, and it’s cheap. And, that’s the thing, if people are looking at supplements—because, I used to do the same thing, I’d go, “How can they be manufacturing CLA this cheap?” and they’d be looking at the other stuff and going, “Oh, but it’s quality.”
Matt: It’s a by-product of the other stuff, yeah.
Jeff: Right. And CLA, when we get into the Oil thing I can’t wait to talk about CLA, it’s great stuff. Anyway, so what else can they do, Matt?
Matt: Basically, load up on the Oils, get NRF2 Activators in to start protecting the structures and encouraging further growth. Use things that increase new Blood Vessel formation and everything through the Brain, like Gingko, Bacopa, and that sort of stuff, they trigger Angiogenesis in the Brain Tissue. Load up on Antioxidants, like I said NRF2 Activators are the most potent, otherwise things like Picnogenal, it’s one of my favourites of all time, I love that stuff.
Jeff: That’s from Pine Bark?
Matt: Yeah, Pine Bark extract; Picnogenal is brilliant.
Jeff: What about Grapeseed as well, Matt?
Matt: Yeah, all of those Antioxidants, you’ve got a big variety of them, and that’s how you start regenerating Brain Tissue, but you’ve got to use a Herbal sort of thing that forces it to happen like Ashwagandha or a Gingko, a Bacopa, they’re really cool for it. So, basically, that’s how you start to rebuild the Brain Tissue.
With Trauma and Concussion, that’s the other thing I wanted to mention, a lot of that happens but that’s always happened.
Jeff: Like Boxing and that sort of stuff?
Matt: Yeah, people just get head knocks all the time, and even whiplash and things like that from car accidents. So, it’s not just something that’s associated with playing Rugby or Boxing or something.
Jeff: Or, NFL?
Matt: I mean Soccer players are just as bad because they’re constantly heading the balls and clashes.
Jeff: I heard they’re going to ban that now for children under 15.
Matt: Have they really?
Matt: That’s good. Actually, my dad was pushing for that—my dad’s been a Soccer coach for years.
Jeff: He was an Australian Children’s Soccer coach wasn’t he?
Matt: Oh something. Yeah, mainly in Queensland and that. But, he’s always said they should ban it, the heading for the children because he didn’t even want to coach it to them at training because that’s even worse, just the constant repetition.
Jeff: Is that right?
Matt: So anyway, the thing that I want people to remember with Concussion is, a lot of people get a head knock and they get diagnosed with Concussion and then the symptoms stay and they think they’ve got Brain Damage. It can be linked in with the Vestibular Injury. The Vestibular System is the Inner Ear and what it does is it regulates where you are in space and time, but it’s a really sensitive little structure, and basically, Trauma in the head and Inflammation can cause Vestibular Injuries. The Vestibular regulates your balance and your equilibrium and your Anxiety levels as well. So, if your Vestibular System can’t tell your Brain where you are in space and time it panics; you don’t know if you’re walking, falling, flying, you don’t know if you’re trapped, you don’t know if you’re free, you can get motion sickness, you can’t sleep, you get jumpy all the time. If your feet are off the ground you freak out, if your eyes are closed you lose balance. There are a lot of interesting little symptoms, and the reason why I’m mentioning it is, it’s not so much a Brain problem, and it’s not an Anxiety and Panic Disorder.
So, I want people to know there is another structural cause in the Inner Ear after a head knock or after whiplash that they can get diagnosed through doctors and physiotherapists, and not many people think about it because they assume you’ve got an Anxiety or a Panic Disorder, and they don’t look at other physical symptoms like, “I’m clumsy in the dark. I don’t sleep well. I don’t do groups. I can’t handle closed in spaces, I’m claustrophobic, I feel better when I find the horizon, I can’t do travel, I get sick in the car, sick in the boat, and all that sort of stuff, but you may have a Vestibular Injury. It’s very common from head knocks and that sort of stuff.
So, the Acute Brain Damage stuff we want to go in with Acute Anti-inflammatory stuff, but also keep an eye on longer term Vestibular Injuries and other structural stuff that can be associated with it. In regards to Chronic Brain Damage and that sort of stuff, it’s all about prevention, which is maintaining the health of the structures and protecting them from Inflammation, Autoimmunity and Oxidative Stress.
Jeff: Well, what about things like Aluminium, Matt? I know you’ve said there’s a bit of debate around that, at first they said it was then they said it wasn’t, now they’re saying it is again.
Matt: The thing is, in some cases it definitely causes Alzheimer’s, but it doesn’t matter because if it’s not Aluminium it could be Lead, if it’s not Lead it could be Toluene, it could be the stuff that you’re smelling as you’re walking past the fingernail ladies.
Jeff: Ugh, I always hold my nose when I go past.
Matt: Basically, what I’m saying is, Inflammation and an Immune Reaction, and it doesn’t matter if it’s a Virus or a Toxin or whatever, it’s the Inflammatory and Immune Reaction that the body launches to remove that whatever it is, that trigger, from the Receptor and in the process damages the Receptor. That’s why the key, long term, is to keep the Inflammation under control, Oxidative Stress levels and everything, and that way if it’s the Aluminium for you but it’s a Virus for me and we’re both taking the same stuff that protects us it doesn’t really matter, but as always we try to avoid the Toxic exposure. If you do suspect heavy metals Hair Analysis is pretty effective for measuring Heavy Metal levels in your body, and then what you do is you do a Chelation Protocol to strip it out. Chelation is like Zinc, Selenium, I load people up with Coriander, Rosemary, Chlorella, that sort of stuff, that actually starts absorbing all the Poisons and just stripping it out.
Matt: Easy, eh?
Jeff: The other thing for the Brain as well is Water. What about the importance of Water, does that have much other than hydration for the Brain in terms of cognitive thought protection for the Brain and all that sort of stuff?
Matt: Yeah. You’ve got to understand that the quality of your Water and your Circulation determines your delivery of Nutrients and everything.
Jeff: The removal of Toxins.
Matt: Yeah. So, it’s very important to have good clean Water, quality Water. Our body is 60 or 70% Water, so if you want to maintain only that part of your body at the highest quality you’re going to be better for it. But, you can’t deliver stuff in and out of the Brain without it. The Brain will use whatever fuel it can to thrive, it will never not have fuel, it will take fuel from anywhere in your body to keep functioning because without it you’re gone.
But, an interesting thing, when we’re talking about study and learning and memory, the best source of fuel for the Brain for memory, concentration span and focus are Ketones; Fats and Ketone Bodies. Ketone Bodies are a breakdown of the Fat Process which is the best considering how Fatty the Brain is and everything as well, but they also have an Anticonvulsant, Anti-seizure effect which a calming effect on the Brain. So, they improve memory and concentration span and they offset Anxiety and worries and that sort of stuff.
Jeff: Was it you that was telling me a while ago that the Brain can have Spasms and we don’t even know?
Matt: Well, you’ve got no Pain Receptors in your Brain. For example, if you’ve built up waste in a cell of your body, so if you’ve built up Lactic Acid in your Calves—sorry, we weren’t talking about Calves—if you build up Lactic Acid in your body what happens…
Jeff: He’s having a go.
Matt: Jeff, explains it, you get small Calves if you’re runners.
Jeff: That’s right.
Matt: Like Blade Runner.
Jeff: That’s right.
Jeff: I wish I could run that fast, but I am pretty fast, I could run away from anyone scary that’s for sure.
Matt: Anyway, if Jeff’s got Lactic Acid in his Calves what happens it will twitch and tap and it will go really tight and tense, it will probably look like a testicle, but not as hairy.
Jeff: I prefer to say a walnut.
Matt: Yeah, a walnut. So, for example, if you get Lactic Acid in a Muscle it will go tight, twitch, it will be sore, it’ll hurt and all that sort of stuff. The same chemical build up in the Brain doesn’t Cramp, doesn’t Spasm, doesn’t hurt because it’s not a Muscle, but it still triggers and irritates Nerves. It just so happens when you irritate a Nerve in the leg it causes Tremoring, Spasming and all that sort of stuff, but when you do that in the Brain it manifests as Anxiety, Worry, Panic, it releases Neurotransmitters.
Jeff: So, that obviously brings the case for things like time out, Meditation, Laughing, taking time with the family, just going for a stroll in the bush. I was saying before we started the podcast, Matt, Thomas Jefferson was a huge one on having morning walks, and he wouldn’t have known then the Biorhythms of the Brain and getting out in Nature and seeing the horizon and just taking time to calm down and contemplate.
Matt: And, maybe even creating Ketones through the liberation of the Fat if he did it before eating, there are a lot of those sorts of things.
Jeff: So, Meditation some people do, other people do Prayer, just silent time.
Matt: When we have a look at the Autonomic Nervous System in the body, it’s split between the Sympathetic Nervous System that drives our Survival Response and the Parasympathetic that does our Regeneration and Repair. You know how we always talk about the Adrenals and everything?
Matt: The Sympathetic Nervous System will drive what we call the HPA Axis and it will keep us in Survival Mode. The Parasympathetic Nervous System that helps to maintain the health of the Thyroid Axis, the Gonadal Axis and everything, and offset and tell the body to stop driving the Adrenals…
Jeff: Yeah, we have spoken about it before.
Matt: The Parasympathetic Nervous System is Activated when we Meditate, and it’s Activated when we’re Sleeping, it’s Activated when we’re Eating. What’s really wild about it, it’s also Activated during Prayer and that sort of stuff, and it links in with saying Grace before meals or doing some sort of ceremony or something like that, to Activate our Parasympathetic Nervous System to let us know we’re about to eat, and it’s the same thing we should be doing before Sleep, so we should be doing a little period of Meditation or Prayer or whatever before we go to Sleep. That’s why you see a lot of these cultures and a lot of traditions that have occurred through history, and it doesn’t matter, East, West or whatever, there is some ritual regardless of what they want to call it, whether they want to call it Grace or having a cup of tea or a salad entrée, or just relaxing and talking with the family, or saying Prayers before Sleep, or spending some time just flushing things through your head. Every culture and all these traditional things—and, all of us, intuitively, know that we need to spend some time to let go of the Sympathetic Nervous System to Activate the Parasympathetic Nervous System for us to get into that Mode.
But, it’s cool that we’ve got a lot of cool research coming out now showing that it doesn’t matter what you call it, or what your belief system is, it depends on how your Brain gets into the zone, whether you call it a Prayer or whether you call it Meditation or whatever, it’s about…
Jeff: Or, zoning out time.
Matt: Yeah, that’s right, or whoever you are talking to, it’s all the same Brain chemistry if you have the Emotion attached to it, if that makes sense.
Jeff: Yeah, it does.
Matt: So, if you believe it, you have to believe it, you can’t be doing this—you know, we started this ATP and I’m a terrible business man, I’m terrible, so basically I feel obligated to start reading these books, the marketing books and the Think and Grow Big…
Jeff: The Think and Grow Big!
Matt: What’s that other one? They make me write these lists and shit, so I’m sitting there going, “Right, I’m going to make this much money by this date,” and they say, “Right, so work out how much money and what date you’re going to—so, I’m going through these motions and I’m sitting there going, “It’s fucking load of bullshit. I don’t believe it,” and I don’t get into the zone, and that’s just never going to work.
Jeff: It’s not your thing.
Matt: And, it’s the same with everyone, you’ve got to get into your thing and work out what it is. So, for some people it might be a hobby, but for other people it might be religion, and then some people it’s the gym, depending on how they do it.
Jeff: And, regardless, whatever it is when you’re going to bed don’t sit there watching TV until the last minute and then flick it off.
Jeff: Maybe go read a book or listen to music; I mean the power of music on the Brain, Matt, is absolutely phenomenal for Relaxation, and we’ve spoken about it a couple of times.
Matt: Well, what works for me is I go through the body, so I’ll start with my toes and I’ll scrunch them up and then relax them, then I do my feet, and like I was telling you I’ve had a real bad trot lately, I try and do a detox strategy stripping out some Toxins and now when I try and lay in bed at night and do my toes and then my feet tension, then my calf tension, and I run through my whole body and tense everything and then just relax it, and I always imagine myself with the water running down my back and the energy coming up the front, weird stuff that I do just to calm myself down for a total of a second before I fall asleep. What the hell was I talking about?
Jeff: Getting yourself into a state and believing it.
Matt: Yeah, that’s what works for me because I couldn’t do it in my Brain, I had to get out of my head and start thinking about tensing my toes to be able to stop thinking about worry, but by the time I got back up to the top of my body I was actually in that nice Meditative state and I’d fully gone into it and imagined it. So, you just have to work out what works for you and be honest with yourself and realise that if something doesn’t work for you don’t rough it.
Jeff: Yeah. My father, reading was for him, and for someone else I knew they used to listen to music before they’d go to bed, Opera and other relaxing music, not like ACDC, but that sort of stuff would help a lot.
Matt: Yeah. Shagging is good too; shagging Activates the Parasympathetic Nervous System and then you get that nice relaxation.
Jeff: Yeah, especially for guys.
Matt: You go to sleep after it.
Jeff: Yeah. What else were we going to talk about, Matt? Oh, Tyrosine and everything to do with that. Have we covered that?
Matt: Yeah. Well, basically, with the different Neurotransmitters if wanted to summarise we could go down and look at Noradrenaline that does Worry and Panic and Survival, and Dopamine that does Pride, Self-esteem, Reward, usually gives yourself a pat on the back for surviving that Stress. So, the Noradrenaline will help you Survive and the Dopamine comes out and goes, “Gee you Survived, good on you. Do that again next time.”
What’s interesting about that is Tyrosine is a very common Deficiency because of that reason, we’re constantly utilising Tyrosine to run our Stress Nervous System, but Tyrosine is also needed for Thyroid Hormone production and that sort of stuff, which is why we can drive the Adrenals and end up with a slow Thyroid. What’s interesting about it is, Phenylalanine, which is an Essential Amino Acid, we must consume that to be able to get any in our Brain, but our body breaks Phenylalanine down to make more Tyrosine to fuel our Survival. So, if we’re not eating adequate Phenylalanine we’re not getting enough anyway, and basically, what happens, in that situation, Phenylalanine works like a Mood and Pain Threshold, it’s like an Endorphin, it raises your Mood, raises your Pain Threshold, makes you feel kind of cool and tough, but the problem is that gets broken down to fuel your Hurry and Worry and Money sort of stuff.
It’s an interesting thing, before you feel the Fatigue from a Tyrosine Deficiency you’ll actually feel the lack of Mood, your Pain Threshold will go down, you’ll be cranky, and you’ll also be losing that Reward centre from the Dopamine, and then eventually the Noradrenaline will run out. The Noradrenaline will run out last because it’s Survival, the Dopamine will go first. You’ll notice before you get the full Fatigue you’ll go through a phase of, “Oh, I feel a bit more achy and more pain, I don’t feel quite right,” then you get to the Dopamine and, “Why am I doing this? I’m burning myself out and I’m not recovering, I’m getting no reward from this hard work,” and then eventually the Noradrenaline runs out you go, “Bugger it, I’m just going back to bed.”
Jeff: So, if it’s one of the Essential Amino Acids, Matt, obviously sources are Meat, Fish, Steak, Nuts, Seeds, that sort of stuff?
Jeff: So, basically, your Protein sources.
Matt: Protein, yeah. Make sure you get your Essential Aminos in amongst it.
Jeff: Matt, is there anything else that we needed to cover off on the Brain?
Matt: Oh, there’s so much, but that will do.
Jeff: I mean that’s good for a preliminary. And, as I said, Matt, I know that you’ve explained to me quite a few times, and we’re going to start doing it next year as well, we’re coming to t the end of 2015, that we’re going to spend a little bit more time and delve a little bit deeper with a lot more scientific studies and a lot more scientific information that you can give as reference for people, as well. Because, really, largely these have just been a bit of a chat with you talking off the top of your head, which is great and most people appreciate that.
Matt: Yeah, but I want to do them better where we can actually go through and create like a reference text book with stuff we can actually learn and link it in with some other blog and information stuff that you can actually take and use. Because, it’s cool to talk and it’s cool to excite people and talk about the conceptual stuff, but at the end of the day we really want to take home something, “What am I going to do tomorrow with this information?”
Jeff: And look, Matt, I know that you say this is a bit lowbrow from a scientific and academia point of view, but for most people the feedback that we have it’s normally very good, Matt, so we’re hitting a good sweet spot and helping a lot of people. But, I hear what you say, and maybe lift it for those who are a little bit more educated but still be relevant for those who are maybe beginners and not with that level of education, if you like.
Matt: Yeah, cool.
Jeff: Matt, we’ve got some FAQs here so let’s get into it.
Matt: Yeah, let’s do it.
Jeff: Okay, this is from Jackie: “Hi ATP, I’ve listened to a few of your podcasts and enjoyed learning so much valuable information, you guys sound like you really know what you’re talking about thoroughly to educate others, which I admire, so thank you so much.
I have a question regarding a health issue I have experienced in the past 6 months. When I train heavy, and more so when I perform any sort of rowing exercise, I experience sharp chest pain in the Sternum.
Consequently, that night I have to be careful with general movement as it triggers the pain again, and more often than not I get severe night sweats to the point where I wake up drenched and have to change my clothes and sheets. I have been to the doctor and have had several blood tests and urine tests and X-rays, and the only conclusion is that I may have a Bone Inflammation, and was given Anti-inflammatories. I’ve taken them when I get pain but it hasn’t cured the problem and I still get night sweats.
If you have any idea what may be causing these problems or what I could do to stop the pain and night sweats it would be greatly appreciated. I value your opinion. Thank you..Jackie.”
That’s a bit different, Matt. Can you help?
Matt: I probably can’t help through here, but go and see someone, they need to go through and have a feel around, someone like our Theo, like a Physio. I don’t know where you’re based but you need to go and see some sort of Physio and Osteopath and just see what’s happening in and around those Intercostal Muscles, and in around the Rhomboids and everything. Because, if you’re doing heavy lifting—and this sounds like a structural sort of thing, basically, because you’ve got to understand your Spine or your Ribs are attached, fixed to your back, but at the front and Sternum there’s a Cartilage that allows the flexibility of the Sternum area, so if you’re pulling the Muscles out of whack at the back you will feel it at the front where it’s actually Cartilage and there’s a bit a more flexibility. And, then what happens the Intercostal Muscles between the Ribs have to spasm to hold the Ribs in place so that one of them doesn’t go boing and pop out, and that causes all the pain. But, the Survival Response, the Inflammation and everything that comes from that low-grade pain or that pinch when you’re trying to sleep is what often can cause the night sweats.
So, I’d do a structural thing and see if there’s a way that you might be able to change the way you’re doing those exercises and just see what there is happening in around that Rotator Cuff and in around those Rhomboids and that whole Thoracic area around your back.
Jeff: Toni had something very similar, my wife, where she had pinched something.
Matt: A supplement? I’d try Magnesium and Dragon’s Breath where the pain is.
Jeff: And, it may be referred Pain so that may or may not…
Matt: I reckon it’s referred, but I reckon there’s something weird going on in your back, so just go and see someone to have a poke and a prod around. You could even then go and see someone like our mate Ken Ware that’s got that ability to go through and rehabilitate the way you pretty much do everything.
Jeff: I’m not sure where Jackie is.
Jeff: But, anyway Jackie, have a look at that.
Matt: Structural sort of stuff.
Jeff: Toni had a pinched nerve in her back and she was getting referred pain, and in fact she had a pinched nerve in her neck when she was young and she couldn’t eat, any time she’d eat she’d vomit, and they thought she had Anorexia, in fact she became virtually Anorexic, and this was all because of a pinched nerve in her neck.
Matt: Yeah, screwing around with the Vegas Nerve.
Jeff: Yeah, exactly. So, this is the weird thing, it could be exactly as Matt says, and it’s probably a good thing to start there and have a look anyway.
Matt: And, eliminate structural stuff, because if it is something that you can fix through Massage and Rehabilitation you don’t need medication.
Jeff: And, the big problem is, Jackie, is finding someone who knows what they’re talking about. I don’t know how long it has taken me to find Theo who knows what he’s doing because they’re a dime a dozen out there. But, if you’re in Brisbane…
Matt: Our manicured Greek man.
Jeff: Yeah, come and see Theo. Anyway, Jackie, have a look at that and hopefully that helps and please let us know how you get on.
Okay, this one is from Andre: “Hi Matt and Jeff. Love listening to your podcasts, I’m addicted.”
Matt: He’s what?
Jeff: He’s addicted to the podcasts.
Matt: I thought he said he was a dickhead.
Jeff: No. No, he’s awesome, he loves us.
“As of late I’ve cut out all Stimulants out of my life such as Pre-Workouts and Caffeinated Drinks, apart from Green Tea, due to the fact that I’ve been getting Excess Mucous build up at the back of my throat and it’s become annoying, some days more than others. This problem has lessened since the change but has not yet gone away. How can I treat this? I was thinking maybe a Cortisol and Immune System problem. Would you recommend utilising the CORT RX along with Vitamin C and Zinc Citrate, which I already use. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you. PS; love the ALPHA MARS and VENUS, two killer products.”
Matt: So, what’s he got? Phlegm at the back of the Throat?
Jeff: Yes, a Mucous problem.
Matt: Typically, where I start with a little bit of Mucous, especially if you’ve found that it’s actually reducing as you’re cleaning up your system, what we try to do then is two things: we try to reset the Cytochrome P450 Pathways that we often refer to as the Liver, but they’re also found in our Mucous Membranes, and that’s what that CORT RX will do. With the Schisandra and Turmeric it will come down and slow down the Phase 1 Pathways that make excessive Mucous in response to Allergenic Triggers. The other thing to then use are the Bioflavonoids, so he mentioned the Vitamin C and Zinc, try to find one that’s got high levels of Bioflavonoids; Bioflavonoids include things like Luteolin, Quercetin, Rutin, Hesperidin. What those things do is they stabilise the Mast Cells, the Immune Cells of the Mucosa and stop them from releasing the Histamine and what they call Chemokines, it stops them from releasing the chemicals that make Mucous and Phlegm.
So, the first thing you do is you slow down the Phase 1 Detoxification Pathways that probably need to be rebooted after you’ve removed all the Toxins, and then you stabilise the Immune Cells so they stop reacting. And, because I do it with everyone I would always recommend—and, everyone should be doing this anyway—is to start looking towards Probiotics to see if you can get a nice coating running through that area. If you ever want a quick remedy that will fix it pretty quickly, but it might mask the cause, it Propolis, unless you’re allergic to bees, but Propolis is great, it’s a nice little compound that they line the inside of the hives with that stops the infections from Bacteria and Fungi.
Jeff: What role does Dairy and things like that have with Mucous production, Matt?
Matt: Dairy makes Mucous, it’s just Mucous forming whether you’re Lactose Intolerant or not, but if you are Lactose Intolerant you’ll make excessive amounts of Mucous and Gas but otherwise it is just straight out acidifying to Mucous Membranes, and it makes Phlegm.
Jeff: So, would it help to maybe cut out Dairy?
Matt: Yeah, it always helps to cut out Dairy any time you want to remover Phlegm, it’s a really good idea.
Jeff: Alright, well hopefully that helps, Andre.
This one is from Anonymous: ”Loving your podcasts. Found Secret Women’s Business podcast very interesting. I actually have a taboo Q&A for you.” That’s interesting. Alright. “I was nearly 2.5 months pregnant feeling very maternal, however recently I have been told I have had a missed Miscarriage and undergone a Curette procedure. My Hormones are so out of whack that I don’t know what I should be doing to help my body recover. I still feel like I have the pregnancy Hormones and still have a slight Morning Sickness, Tiredness, Swollen Breasts, and Retaining Fluid all over my body. It’s been almost two weeks since I was told I had a Miscarriage. Is there anything I can do/take to assist my body to aid recovery, to help my Hormonal imbalance and reduce Fluid, and something to assist me Mentally. I’d really appreciate your help…Anonymous.”
Matt: Yeah, cool. So, basically, in this sort of situation what that means is there’s been a Miscarriage that hasn’t been released properly, and the Immune System then has to go and clean it all up. And, what happens in that situation, as you can imagine, it would trigger quite a bit of Scar Tissue, because the Immune System has to launch a Defence Mechanism against it. It creates a lot of Swelling, a lot of Inflammation, and results in a lot of Scar Tissue. Of course, you can imagine the Emotional stuff attached with all of this is so heavy.
The plan is to go through and help the Immune System to just clean up the Scar Tissue, clean up that mess. The best things for that are Turmeric, so the CORT RX product is very high in Turmeric and is very powerful at this sort of thing, so I would use the CORT RX and I would do probably two capsules three times a day, and I would do that for probably the next one to three months, get a nice big dose of that. What it does, it’s a very powerful Anti-inflammatory, takes away the Swelling, it will stop the Clotting in the Blood, take away a lot of the Pain, and also help to do a lot for the Brain. So, the CORT RX by itself is also going to reduce a lot of the Anxiety and help to reboot the system. Then, what you do is you stack it with the ALPHA VENUS because we need that ALPHA VENUS, because what’s happened is the body would have had a massive Hormonal surge, so in that first two and a half months your Pregnancy Hormones they go from about 30 milligrams of Hormones a day up to 300 milligrams, and that’s what she’s been through. So, what she has to understand is as those Hormones drop some drop faster than others, so you get weird stuff happening, the Progesterone will drop really fast and then the Estrogen takes a while to drop, so there’s a lot more Anxiety, a lot more Worry, it’s harder to get that Menstrual Cycle to work again.
So, basically, you do ALPHA VENUS two capsules twice a day for about three months, and what it’s going to do is help to reset those Hormonal Pathways, again with the NRF2 Activators it’s going to help the Regeneration of the Mucosa, prevent the Scar Tissue and all that sort of stuff. So, just those two products. Then, what you need to do is have some Cofactors with those products, things like B Vitamins and Zinc and that sort of stuff that the body will need to do the healing and help these things to work. So, take a good B Complex that’s got Folic Acid, B12 up over 500 micrograms of each, throw in good doses of Zinc and I would go like a Zinc Picolinate at about 50 milligrams, do ALPHA VENUS two capsules twice a day, and CORT RX two capsules three times a day, and I’d probably do that Protocol for the next three months.
What you can do after that time, you’ll find it will reboot those Hormones, the Menstrual Cycle should sort itself out and just come back in when it’s supposed to. If it doesn’t you can do one course of the ALPHA MARS to come in and tell the body to reboot the Hormonal Pathway. So, thank you for that email because there’s a lot of other people out there who wouldn’t ask those questions, they assume, “Oh, there’s nothing that can be done.” You’ve had a Curette, which is basically scraping the lining and that sort of stuff, which does stop the Hormonal production from the lining as well. So, that’s what I’m saying, other parts of the body are still pumping out Hormones but the Progesterone and that drop. So, that’s what I would do.
Jeff: Yeah, it creates an issue. And, I’m not sure if Elsa’s got your email, and hopefully she does, but if she does we’ll send those products out to you.
Matt: Yeah, good idea.
Jeff: The ALPHA VENUS and the CORT RX. If we’ve got any ALPHA VENUS, it’s hard to keep in stock at the moment.
Matt: It’s hard to make.
Jeff: Yeah. And, of course, as always please consult with your healthcare practitioner, this is advice and hopefully this helps, but because Matt’s not looking at you, he’s not right in front of you, you’re not under his patient care, so you need to treat this as information and take that to your healthcare practitioner.
Matt: Yeah, of course.
Jeff: Okay. “Hi Matt and Jeff. I’ve just heard about ATP Science from Herman and Sheldon at Mass Nutrition Bondi who rave about your products…
Matt: Oh, cool.
Jeff: …and, suggested I look up your website and get more technical info on your products. I started listening to your podcasts and I must say I love your honesty, integrity and diligence with your research, I also love your dry sense of humour too. It’s good to have a company that you can trust and I look forward to hearing about any new products you may bring out and the science behind its efficiency and any testimonials as well. I’m also a lover and believer of Essential Oils and glad you use them in your products.
My mum is 67 years young, divorced, lives on her own and has very bad Chronic Fatigue induced by years of Trauma. She is at the point where she can now hardly do anything because she has no Energy and is in bed most of the time and is in a lot of Pain. She has Dizzy Spells and is Nauseous sometimes. She normally wakes up feeling somewhat Traumatised and slowly gets better during the day. She is getting help with juicing and gets someone to help her cook and do chores occasionally. She has trouble getting into a Deep Sleep, sometimes has very Bad Dreams. Mum lives in country New South Wales and I am 500 kilometres away in Sydney, so I cannot help physically. She feels unwell most of the time.
I know, Matt, that you helped Jeff’s wife with her Chronic Fatigue and I’ve listened to most of your podcasts, in particular the podcast on Adrenal Maladaptation and Boosting your Metabolic Response, and read you blog on strategies using CORT RX. But, because Mum is so severe I just wanted some personal advice. I’m assuming something the following: CORT RX one capsule three times a day, and then maybe a further two at night before bed, T432 PLUS maybe two in the morning and one at lunch, Vitamin C?, Kava for Pain Relief; what brand and how much? She is taking Magnesium and Melatonin at night, but if there is a particular brand that you recommend that is good quality I’d love your opinion and suggested quantity to take. Also, you mentioned taking Adrenal Gland extract from the USA, what brand company can I source this from and how much and when do I take it? Is there anything else she should do or take and how long will it take her to heal?
Thanks for taking the time to read my email and I would appreciate any help or advice that you can give to help my Mum. Also, for your information, I forgot to mention, my mum has been on 150 milligrams of Zoloft for many, many years. Kind regards…Rochelle Judd.”
Matt: Cool. Too easy. So, basically, the description you gave where she doesn’t get good quality Sleep and then struggles to get going in the morning, she’s obviously in that stage where she’s got that annoying little trickle of Cortisol, so she can’t switch off properly and she can’t get up, and it sounds like there’s probably no difference with her Energy levels between day and night, which means she’s probably flat lining with her Cortisol, just this annoying trickle. Never enough Cortisol during the day to wake up, never enough Cortisol to give her the Energy she needs and to block the Pain, but then this stupid annoying trickle at night that stops her from Refreshing.
In that situation, we need to get her Cortisol higher in the morning because first thing in the morning if you get a nice surge of Cortisol it blocks the Pain, it wakes you up and gets you up and out of bed. So, I don’t really want to be dampening that down with the CORT RX, so what I would rather do is do the CORT RX just in the evening, so we do probably two with the evening meal, maybe another two before bed, and I say maybe, so do two with the evening meal definitely, and if she sleeps well don’t bother with the others, just the next night try two before bed, and try to get rid of those before bed as soon as possible so she’s not taking as many capsules.
So, CORT RX take two at night with your evening meal. In the morning, then what we want to do is fuel the Adrenal Gland to pick up, that’s where we use the Adrenal Gland extract, and I get it from a company called Thorn and I look for Adrenal Cortex at about 150 milligrams. I’m terrible, I can never remember any of the product names.
Jeff: They’re based out of New Zealand, aren’t they?
Matt: They’re an American company but they’ve got a distribution point in New Zealand. So, Thorn is one of my favourite ones for the Adrenal Cortex, and there’s also Zymogen is another company, I think, that pretty much copies them that you might be able to find easier, I don’t know. T432, what does did she say she’s taking?
Jeff: Was recommending that she go onto two with breakfast and then one at lunch.
Matt: With the T432 I’d probably be inclined to do that, that’s a good idea, two in the morning and one at lunch, and then do the CORT RX at night. Use that Thorn product only with breakfast, about 150 milligrams at breakfast. In regards to answering your question regarding Kava, I use MediHerb Kava. Now, it’s a water-soluble extract, not an ethanol extract, which makes it better quality and closer to what they use traditionally, they always boil it in water and make it up as a water extract. So, I use a MediHerb Kava, and I throw a fair few down too whenever I feel—and, Kava is nice, Man, it just gets rid of that excessive mental chatter and just raises up your Pain Threshold.
Jeff: Time of day for using it, Matt?
Matt: It depends what you want to do with it. So, you can have a little bit here and there just to reduce Anxiety, reduce Pain, like a low dose, but then if you want to flatten yourself take half a dozen and it will really smash you. They use it for Heroin addiction and all sort of stuff.
Jeff: Doesn’t it taste like soapy dishwater?
Matt: Oh yeah, it tastes horrible, but I get Kava tablets from MediHerb.
Jeff: That’s smart.
Matt: Yeah, so she’ll be able to find those. You’ll probably need a script or something, so you probably have to work with a Naturopath for it. Vitamin C, B Vitamins, Magnesium, they’re the important Cofactors. But, typically, if you were to do nothing else other than the CORT RX at night and the T432 in the morning you might be able to switch that Cortisol really quickly. The moment she’s getting a Deep Sleep and then waking up feeling good you’re golden.
Jeff: And, she’s taking the Magnesium and Melatonin at night before bed as well.
Matt: Too easy, Man, yeah.
Jeff: Okay, so keep taking that?
Matt: Yeah, keep taking that. The other thing to be aware of, and I shouldn’t be saying this but I’m going to anyway, but they can go back to their doctor with this and try to work out a plan.
Jeff: Well, she’s on Zoloft so I’d definitely go back…
Matt: The way Zoloft works is it preservers Serotonin. Now, if you’ve got low Serotonin what happens is you get Depression, you get Anxiety, and you get Pain. If you get too much Serotonin you get Anxiety, Depression, you can’t get out of bed in the morning, but also you get too much Serotonin floating around, and you know what it’s like when you’re pissed and trying to sleep? You either go into a Deep Sleep where you wake up feeling like crap, or you have these weird half arsed sleeps with lots of Dreaming, it’s almost like Hallucinating, and that sort of stuff.
So, what I’m saying, if the dose for Zoloft isn’t right you’ll be really struggling to get started in the morning and you won’t be able to get a proper Deep Sleep at night, so just go back and talk to the doctor about how you can screw around with that as well, you might even be able to just drop it down a dose or a touch or something, you might be getting too much. But, I don’t know, it might be perfect for you, so of course the doctor and pharmacist will know all about that.
Jeff: Alright. We’ll send that out to Rochelle as well, one T432 and CORT RX, and of course, please tell your mum to go back to the doctor.
Matt: I’ll check my stash for Kava and I’ll see if I’ve got some.
Jeff: Yeah. Alright, Rochelle, so thanks again.
Matt, that’s it for today’s show. Last word?
Matt: Man, I’m going to use lots of last words, because I just remembered something, something you said earlier reminded me and I want to talk about it.
Crazy Cat ladies have got Toxoplasmosis.
Jeff: That means nothing to 99.9% of the population.
Matt: Have you heard of Toxoplasmosis?
Matt: Oh, well. For the others that have it’s probably a pregnant woman, saying, “I’ve heard of Toxoplasmosis and that’s why I can’t touch kitty litter when I’m pregnant.” So, Toxoplasmosis is a Parasite that infects rats and makes rats love cats.
Jeff: That’s weird.
Matt: I know. So, it makes rats love cats, and in particular cat urine, and be attracted to cats and follow cats around. Just so the cats eat the rat get infected with the Toxoplasmosis, because cats are the best methods of transport the Toxoplasmosis Parasite because it doesn’t kill the cat, but then the cat goes and gives it to people like humans, and in humans it causes Schizophrenia or it gets into their Nerves and causes Birth Defects and Miscarriages and all that sort of stuff.
Matt: So, I just had a thought that maybe cat ladies have got Toxoplasmosis and they’re surrounding themselves with cats.
Jeff: I knew I didn’t like cats.
Matt: No, mongrels eh?
Jeff: Horrible things.
Matt: They make great hats.
Jeff: Do they? Just joking, we love cats.
Matt: I don’t.
Jeff: That’s interesting, Matt. So, it’s kind of like almost Rabies where they have to bite to pass that on.
Matt: But how amazing is a Parasite that will get into the Brain of a rodent…
Jeff: And tell it to go find a cat.
Matt: And, tell the rodent to go find a cat so the cat will eat it, so the cat can take the Parasite somewhere else.
Jeff: That’s weird.
Jeff: That is. Well, maybe it’s the Zombie…
Matt: See, the Zombie Apocalypse, yeah, it’s possible.
Jeff: Yeah, it’s possible.
Matt: And, if it is it’s going come from a cat, so get rid of them now.
Jeff: Alright, Matt. Good last word.
Matt: Kill the cats.
Jeff: That’s so getting cut.
Matt: No, it’s not. It takes three cats to make two gloves.
Jeff: Thanks everyone for listening, and we’ll be back next week.
Matt: With cats for hats.
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